If you or I was to walk unguarded in either the Palestinian West bank, or in the Hamas run Gaza strip, we would almost certainly run the serious risk of being kidnapped (especially in Gaza), either as a terror hostage/execution, or for ransom/prisoner swap. Our crime? Being :
(a) A Westerner.
(b) A Non Muslim, or
(c) Stupid enough to believe the pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli nonsense that comes out of the mouths of idiots like Jeremy Corbyn.
But still the Western media (none of whom have free access to either of these areas, for reasons a - c), will spout uncritical stories, about how the 'Palestinians', who are simply Arabs after all and not a separate ethnic group, are the victims, and its the Jews who are the oppressors. However, oddly, I and millions of other Western tourists (and the western media), can walk freely around 90% of Israel (the other 10% being unsafe because they are high density Arab areas, where terrorist sympathy is high).
Strange that. The peace loving Palestinians areas are often too dangerous to walk in for Westerners (especially under the gangster regime in Gaza), but those nasty Israelis run a safe, western style, democratic country. Of course as we don't teach real history any more (and some schools teach a very different history to their south Asian pupils), then the reality of what happened 1948 gets forgotten.
FACT: It was the Arab nations who launched an attack on the new state of Israel in 1948 .... it wasn't the Israeli's who were the aggressors. But such is the pro-Palestinian view of the fallout from this event today, that from some left wing quarters we are now often served an alternative version of the first Arab Israeli war.
In this strange world view, its no longer Arabs unwillingness to ever negotiate that caused the 'The Nakba or Catastrophe,' (as the Arabs refer to these events), but the Jews, for not being sporting enough to let the Arabs have as many goes as they wanted to eradicate them until they won.
Let us not forget that the partition plan that the UN was proposing, was a split that gave the Arabs far more land, than that which they ended up with after the Arab invasions failed. Of course the Arabs idea was that they would invade and wipe the Israeli state off the map (and probably another genocide would have occurred ~ whatever they now claim).
However when that failed, and essentially they lost, they wanted to go back to the UN plan, and then probably regroup for another attack. Not unsurprisingly, the Jews weren't so keen on doing this, and to the victor the spoils .... the 1949 Armistice Agreements, created what are essentially still the borders of the modern state of Israel, and which the Arabs have never reconciled themselves to. However if they had won, the Jews would have been wiped off the map.
After the war, Israeli and Arab historiographies have differed on any interpretation of the events of 1948, and still do to this day, but the facts in the main can't be disputed. The Arabs, started and lost the first war. History has also shown that you can't expect to lose a war and then get everything back again. This sort of idea only gets traction with the Arabs of the Middle East, and the South Americans.
..... which is why it was no surprise that Argentina cancelled a football World Cup warm-up match with Israel, ostensibly over 'the players' objections to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and the fact that the game was to be played in Jerusalem. However when you realise that Argentina still has designs on the Falklands .....
.... Well, its about what you might have expected.
(a) A Westerner.
(b) A Non Muslim, or
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(c) Stupid enough to believe the pro-Palestinian, anti-Israeli nonsense that comes out of the mouths of idiots like Jeremy Corbyn.
But still the Western media (none of whom have free access to either of these areas, for reasons a - c), will spout uncritical stories, about how the 'Palestinians', who are simply Arabs after all and not a separate ethnic group, are the victims, and its the Jews who are the oppressors. However, oddly, I and millions of other Western tourists (and the western media), can walk freely around 90% of Israel (the other 10% being unsafe because they are high density Arab areas, where terrorist sympathy is high).
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Strange that. The peace loving Palestinians areas are often too dangerous to walk in for Westerners (especially under the gangster regime in Gaza), but those nasty Israelis run a safe, western style, democratic country. Of course as we don't teach real history any more (and some schools teach a very different history to their south Asian pupils), then the reality of what happened 1948 gets forgotten.
FACT: It was the Arab nations who launched an attack on the new state of Israel in 1948 .... it wasn't the Israeli's who were the aggressors. But such is the pro-Palestinian view of the fallout from this event today, that from some left wing quarters we are now often served an alternative version of the first Arab Israeli war.
In this strange world view, its no longer Arabs unwillingness to ever negotiate that caused the 'The Nakba or Catastrophe,' (as the Arabs refer to these events), but the Jews, for not being sporting enough to let the Arabs have as many goes as they wanted to eradicate them until they won.
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Let us not forget that the partition plan that the UN was proposing, was a split that gave the Arabs far more land, than that which they ended up with after the Arab invasions failed. Of course the Arabs idea was that they would invade and wipe the Israeli state off the map (and probably another genocide would have occurred ~ whatever they now claim).
However when that failed, and essentially they lost, they wanted to go back to the UN plan, and then probably regroup for another attack. Not unsurprisingly, the Jews weren't so keen on doing this, and to the victor the spoils .... the 1949 Armistice Agreements, created what are essentially still the borders of the modern state of Israel, and which the Arabs have never reconciled themselves to. However if they had won, the Jews would have been wiped off the map.
After the war, Israeli and Arab historiographies have differed on any interpretation of the events of 1948, and still do to this day, but the facts in the main can't be disputed. The Arabs, started and lost the first war. History has also shown that you can't expect to lose a war and then get everything back again. This sort of idea only gets traction with the Arabs of the Middle East, and the South Americans.
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..... which is why it was no surprise that Argentina cancelled a football World Cup warm-up match with Israel, ostensibly over 'the players' objections to Israel's treatment of the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, and the fact that the game was to be played in Jerusalem. However when you realise that Argentina still has designs on the Falklands .....
.... Well, its about what you might have expected.
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ReplyDeleteThe amnesia which should be questioned is; what is at the heart of the divide? If Religion weren't the issue the problem would have been solved years ago, if problem there was in the first place. It poisons everything.
ReplyDeleteNo, I don't assume that. I know that there will always be divides and ethnicity/race is the main one after Religion but compared to Religion, where groups claim absolute, divine rights based on irrationality, they pose much less of threat and can be managed, reasoned with.
Delete'reasoned with.' ...when has Islam ever been reasonable? But putting aside their religion, had the Arab race shown any reasonableness in 1948, then they wouldn't have invaded, or lost more land than the partition plan called for.
DeleteNo, my point was that Religion can't be reasoned with because it's so irrational. People may be unreasonable in other areas but not in the same way, there's no immutable creator making them deaf to reason. Are you sure that the Arab race put aside their religion when they invaded? If they had put Religion aside perhaps they would have made more pragmatic decisions.
DeleteI didn't say that they had put aside their religion, I was just suggesting that even if there had been no religion involved, like Rwanda, it simply being Arab, and them being Jew, would likely have been enough to start a war and invasion.
DeleteBut don't forget that Mr Corbyn and others of his ilk on the left claim its never been about religion in the region, but something else. What, he's never been too clear about, which is why he's up to his neck in claims he's an anti-Semite.
Not about Religion? And the Pope doesn't shit in the woods Jeremy!
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