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Wednesday 11 July 2007

Global Warming - latest

Mainstream fightback:

Since I wrote this blog comment a new BBC science page has come on line which shows all the main 'sceptics' arguments and the counter view to them. It doesn't show of the science supports the counterview but its apparently fair.
The Summary of the Sceptics Top Ten Arguments covers all the points, and I admit I am wobbling, but still not entirely convinced that its a human led event. It covers the following subjects:
  1. EVIDENCE THAT THE EARTH'S TEMPERATURE IS GETTING WARMER IS UNCLEAR
  2. IF THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS RISING, IT HAS NOW STOPPED
  3. THE EARTH HAS BEEN WARMER IN THE RECENT PAST
  4. COMPUTER MODELS ARE NOT RELIABLE
  5. THE ATMOSPHERE IS NOT BEHAVING AS MODELS WOULD PREDICT
  6. CLIMATE IS MAINLY INFLUENCED BY THE SUN
  7. A CARBON DIOXIDE RISE HAS ALWAYS COME AFTER A TEMPERATURE INCREASE NOT BEFORE
  8. LONG-TERM DATA ON HURRICANES AND ARCTIC ICE IS TOO POOR TO ASSESS TRENDS
  9. WATER VAPOUR IS THE MAJOR GREENHOUSE GAS; CO2 IS RELATIVELY UNIMPORTANT
  10. PROBLEMS SUCH AS HIV/AIDS AND POVERTY ARE MORE PRESSING THAN CLIMATE CHANGE
They have also added this article on the sceptics views.
The Original Blog:

In a spirit of fairness I have editted an old blog because the BBC, true to its word, has published a new article on the solar influence on climate. Of course its an article purporting to prove that this influence is negligible or non existent.

Frankly I found it unconvincing because although the last 20 yrs data shows a divergence from trend for 13 of those years, but in reality it has the same weakness as all the pro CO2 (as main driver of global warming) brigade. That is that it relys on data from a very small time scale of the last 50, or even 20 yrs, upon which to base an assumption of trend for the next 300 years.

This is just not sustainable in any other scientific context, where a 20 year blip in a trend taken out of 5,000 yrs would not be considered significant, and certainly not enough to refute a long term set of data.

In fact this is rather a good illustration of how we are being driven by an unscientific agenda on what should be a wholly evidence drven discussion.

NB: Recent studies have found that the ice never completely melted when the last warm period occurred and that some parts of the solar ice caps got thicker (hence the survival of Polar Bears?) ... there is evidence that this is occurring even now. The jury is still out in my world.

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