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Wednesday 23 May 2007

Malaya and Turkey (two of a kind)

The world’s a little bit more depressing today. I have been watching the news recently (as always), and have found it had to work up the energy to blog about any of it. Light relief is in short supply at the moment, and even distractions are of a sombre kind.

Iraq is lost to civil war (despite WW’s state of denial), the Palestinians are proving once again that they are dumb, even by Muslim standards, by killing each other over who controls the shit heap that is Gaza and the West Bank. The Lebanese are at it again, with Palestinians (yes them again) fighting the Lebanese army.

Democracy is never going to take hold in the Muslim world, and before anyone points at Malaya and Turkey as examples of democratic Islam, well lets just take a quick .

In Turkey, the Army has just threatened a coup to defend ‘secularism’ …. Hardly the actions of a democratic state that wishes to become “European” (What a laugh, they don’t even realise that if they were “European” they wouldn’t have to ask to become one). They also fail to see that if the army has to guarantee “secularism” by upending the elected government, then they fail to be European on at least two counts!

  1. By voting for a non secular government, and
  2. By having a democratic government over turned by the army.

In Malaya in 2003, the Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said that “The Muslims will forever be oppressed and dominated by the Europeans and the Jews. It cannot be that there is no other way. 1.3 billion Muslims cannot be defeated by a few million Jews. There must be a way. We are actually very strong. 1.3 billion people, cannot be simply wiped out. The Europeans killed 6 million Jews out of 12 million. But today the Jews rule this world by proxy. They get others to fight and die for them. They survived 2000 years of pogroms not by hitting back, but by thinking. They invented and successfully promoted Socialism, Communism, human rights and democracy so that persecuting them would appear to be wrong, so they may enjoy equal rights with others. With these they have now gained control of the most powerful countries and they, this tiny community, have become a world power. Of late because of their power and their apparent success they have become arrogant. And arrogant people, like angry people will make mistakes, will forget to think.” He has other thoughts along thse lines on the link below.

Hardly the benign speech of a secular minded leader of a Muslim democracy, well it gets better (despite Tony ‘Dhimmi’ Blair, trying to tell us all that Islam is a peaceful religion, and that Turkey should be in the EU, or that Malaya is a free and democratic state).

Malayan backed jihadists are trying to seperate two states in neighbouring Thailand by killing Thai teachers, nurses, civil servants etc. The idea is to drive out the native Thais, and claim that these two states are actually Muslim Malay, and always have been. The west, led by Blair are sitting by and saying nothing while this goes on.

Finally to top it off …. The Malayan government has moved motorway routes etc so as not to knock down derelict mosques, but has never diverted a single road if it ran over a Church, Hindu or Buddhist temple, whether derelict or not, these have all been knocked down despite objections.

In Malaya Converts from Islam to Christianity, or other religions, have to keep it secret, for fear of being stoned to death (as in rural Turkey) and live in fear of their lives, and the state refuses to recognise the conversion, in other words the same terrible treatment that non muslims can expect where ever islam holds away.

… Hmm, a democratic state if you are a Muslim, but not if you are a Jew, Christian, Hindu or Atheist. Keep showing the good judgement Tony by recommending Gordon as the royal successor…. Oh, you have already done that …. Like I said a really good couple of weeks!

Links:
Malayas Prime Ministers speech in full.
http://www.adl.org/Anti_semitism/Malaysian_1.asp
Christian loses final appeal in Malaya
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/6703155.stm

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